Why the difference in the manuals for the oil amount?

Started by CharlieTango, December 11, 2024, 08:52:47 PM

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CharlieTango

I downloaded the Smart Forfour manuals, plural meaning I got the Portuguese and the English version.

Funny thing is that the Portuguese one says that for example my version, the 1.1 has 3.2 liters of capacity when changing the oil and the English version states 3.5, so 0.3ltrs difference. And it's not just for mine, that increment goes for all the engines.

Does anyone know why? I always went with the 3.2 when doing the change and of course controlling the amount on the dipstick, but it's really weird this difference between the manuals.
454 Passion 1.1

jmariog

Could it be that like the US pint, is different to EU pint, so changing to litre would be different.
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CrazyG

Being as Christmas is 'on our doorsteps' I've not had or got the time
to take a quick looksee in the Manual in the car footwell of any of my
454's to see if it gives the oil capacity for either my Brab or CDi to
then compare with the downloadable manuals.....

Anyone fancy having a look in their actual 'paper' Owners Manual...?
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CharlieTango

Quote from: jmariog on December 12, 2024, 06:23:28 AM
Could it be that like the US pint, is different to EU pint, so changing to litre would be different.

All figures show in liters.
454 Passion 1.1

CharlieTango

Quote from: CrazyG on December 13, 2024, 09:15:55 AM
Being as Christmas is 'on our doorsteps' I've not had or got the time
to take a quick looksee in the Manual in the car footwell of any of my
454's to see if it gives the oil capacity for either my Brab or CDi to
then compare with the downloadable manuals.....

Anyone fancy having a look in their actual 'paper' Owners Manual...?

I have mine in the car, I'll have a look.
454 Passion 1.1

Brabs

Could it be that one includes the filter and the other doesn’t? 🤔
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CrazyG

Excellent, that indeed is more than likely to be THE answer.
As you quite rightly say, manufacturers at one time used to quote
2 different figures, one with and one without the filter.
That all changed for whatever reason, and without any explanation...
one can only assume the manufacturers thought/expected one would
only change the oil AS WELL AS the filter at the same time.
454 - Brabus (mapped, Willwood brakes, KW coilovers etc)
454 - Passion CDi 95hp, manual. - Soon to leave my ownership !
454 - Passion 1.3, manual (full Brab body kit, Brab wheels, lowered etc) - SOLD to 'Problemchild'
451 - Pulse Turbo [daily driver] (coilovers, bodykit etc)

mr singh

check on shell lube match, it gives the correct oil you need to use and how much you need.

iv used it many times and its always been correct.
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