Car Tax Costs From April 1st 2011

Started by Big Bad Admin, March 11, 2010, 06:20:45 PM

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BlackDog

My Passion Softouch is rated at 138 not 133  :'(
David

Problemchild

#2
If you read the reminder, on the front it states that prices were correct at time of printing and on the back it says that reminders are printed 6 weeks before due ! ;)

JJ

evilution

Quote from: BlackDog on April 14, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
My Passion Softouch is rated at 138 not 133  :'(

Doesn't affect the price though.

BlackDog

David

Unknown

The only CDi's to benefit from the lowest paid bracket is the Pure and Pulse, running on steels, no air con with the 68bhp motor hooked upto the softouch.

It is quite amazing that an auto box reduces the price of the tax, has better mpg and performance over the manual offering.
Alice (1.3 Pulse forfour) 2007 - 2012 Zoe (1.4 SE Corsa) 2012 -

Problemchild

Not really - it has 6 gears instead of 5 ;)

JJ

CrazyG

My apologies Sam  :-[...I stand corrected.. :o  I thought you had a 1.5 diesel.   

CrazyG
454 - Brabus (mapped, Willwood brakes, KW coilovers etc)
454 - Passion CDi 95hp, manual. - Soon to leave my ownership !
454 - Passion 1.3, manual (full Brab body kit, Brab wheels, lowered etc) - SOLD to 'Problemchild'
451 - Pulse Turbo [daily driver] (coilovers, bodykit etc)

Unknown

Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.
Alice (1.3 Pulse forfour) 2007 - 2012 Zoe (1.4 SE Corsa) 2012 -

Ferrina

Quote from: The Architect on April 15, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.

Alice is amazing - power and economy without the 'chitty chitty bang bang' sound!

CrazyG

Quote from: Ferrina on May 03, 2010, 11:53:45 AM
Quote from: The Architect on April 15, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
Wanted but couldn't find one with in my budget at the time of looking.

Alice is amazing - power and economy without the 'chitty chitty bang bang' sound!

Are you saying in a round about way that we have here our own  'Caracticus Potts' ! LOL
454 - Brabus (mapped, Willwood brakes, KW coilovers etc)
454 - Passion CDi 95hp, manual. - Soon to leave my ownership !
454 - Passion 1.3, manual (full Brab body kit, Brab wheels, lowered etc) - SOLD to 'Problemchild'
451 - Pulse Turbo [daily driver] (coilovers, bodykit etc)

CrazyG

Yes those are all standard on the Passion, but as The Architect rightly points out, they load
you for having them.  Steel wheels are lighter than alloys...so less CO2 produced to move the car,
aircon is extra weight...so again more CO2 produced, and the manual gearbox is in their eyes
not as efficient as the 'intelligent' semi-auto gearbox which changes gear at the optimum time,
so again they predict more CO2 will be produced and load you accordingly.

These draconian taxes only count at the time the vehicle was manufactured, so after it left the
factory you could add bigger wheels, fatter tyres, earth shaking heavyweight stereo systems,
extra horns, mudflaps, roof racks, towbars, and whatever else that would blow the original
cars CO2 figure clean out the window, but you would still only pay the original standard cars tax.

So, at the end of the day it's just an excuse for a stealth tax...courtesy of the previous Government.
454 - Brabus (mapped, Willwood brakes, KW coilovers etc)
454 - Passion CDi 95hp, manual. - Soon to leave my ownership !
454 - Passion 1.3, manual (full Brab body kit, Brab wheels, lowered etc) - SOLD to 'Problemchild'
451 - Pulse Turbo [daily driver] (coilovers, bodykit etc)

iJay

#12
Quote from: CrazyG on May 25, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
Yes those are all standard on the Passion, but as The Architect rightly points out, they load
you for having them.  Steel wheels are lighter than alloys...so less CO2 produced to move the car,
aircon is extra weight...so again more CO2 produced, and the manual gearbox is in their eyes
not as efficient as the 'intelligent' semi-auto gearbox which changes gear at the optimum time,
so again they predict more CO2 will be produced and load you accordingly.

These draconian taxes only count at the time the vehicle was manufactured, so after it left the
factory you could add bigger wheels, fatter tyres, earth shaking heavyweight stereo systems,
extra horns, mudflaps, roof racks, towbars, and whatever else that would blow the original
cars CO2 figure clean out the window, but you would still only pay the original standard cars tax.

So, at the end of the day it's just an excuse for a stealth tax...courtesy of the previous Government.


so the parker's quote is incorrect. or is based on the automatic version.

Problemchild

latest (VED) tax bands as of April 1st 2011 (conservative govt)



JJ

Unknown

Basically a car is produce with a target CO2 emission rate BUT every car that leaves the factory goes through a check, like a birth certificate, which gives that individual vehicle its unique emissions output which is then put on the V5c document.

Air con adds weight and an additional load on the engine; alloys are generally wider than steels, so create a higher rolling resistance; the manual gearbox is dependent on the driver obtaining the optimum shift point. There is also adding a bodykit which can up the CO2 because of the drag it creates.

BUT that all said and done the CO2 brackets are wide so a Pulse with softouch and a Passion with manual could be in the same road fund licence bracket.
Alice (1.3 Pulse forfour) 2007 - 2012 Zoe (1.4 SE Corsa) 2012 -