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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2022, 02:45:33 PM »

I getting back to this issue, since i am planning to clean the TVA and some other servicing...
Which ground connections do you know of the forfour? I am also planning to clean all visible ones...
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2022, 09:40:05 PM »

A lot of the owners have changed the earth wires between the battery and the chassis and also the earth and chassis. I found this made the engine much smoother and possibly more economical :)
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2022, 08:11:04 PM »

Cecil, i have alteady done so...But are there any other ground wires i should clean or replace?
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2022, 10:41:21 AM »

As with any electrical wiring loom in a car there are many earthing points
all around the vehicle, however there is no 'list' as to where these will be,
and that is true for any make or model of vehicle.

Mechanics/electricians (NO...not dealer 'technicians') who work on cars will
possibly be familiar as to where some of these earthing points should be, but
again that does depend on which cars they have worked on or work on the most
and for what reasons. (such as audio/lighting, and charging)

With Main Dealers, their 'technicians' are not trained or taught how to repair
anything, instead they are expected simply to replace things until the problem
is resolved. There is no skill in that.
So if they get a vehicle in with electrical problems they just replace parts, including
sections of wiring loom until the problem is sorted as it is deemed quicker, less
time consuming and more cost effective (wages bill) for the Dealer; rather than
take the time to have someone investigate/search for/and repair the problem.
This means 99% of the time a simple repair is NEVER undertaken. The failure of that
method is that more often than not perfectly useable working parts are replaced in
an attempt to get one step closer to where the real problem is. And the net result
is that the customer gets to pay a mega bill for replacement parts that didn't need
to be replaced. This has been the 'modern' trend for at least the last 10-15 years,
and why Independant Specialists can and are better to go to.
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2022, 04:14:29 PM »

Exactly CrazyG! I believe its a typical mechanic ethic around the world...And since this car does not worth too much money, I should probably have to live with this problem... ;D
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2022, 02:20:56 PM »

Can you confirm you have checked the pipes and seals of the air system for leaks? Why don't you look at the connectors  available round the engine bay and open them to see if corroded- just by opening them you may improve the connection.  My 1.1 manages about 45mpg on a tank( 5.2 l per 100). Re voltage/ rev  changes are the lights on dash changing as well- ? I would check G s comments re alternator and battery being changed at the same time- but measure with a good voltmeter first! Have you reset the throttle? ( see child boards) Like the rest of us I am interested in the outcome of all this - Please keep us posted.
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2022, 11:07:40 AM »

Thank you Cecil.
I have already cleaned the TVA, reset the throttle, upgraded grounds, changed battery and alternator and cleaned injectors.
Mine manages mostly 6l/100km with 50/50 city/highway driving. I cannot hear any air leaks from the car, but I am planning to clean the TVA again and change the gasket just to be sure, I will let you know afterwards of the results.
When I use hazards or any heavy electrical component (like the back door's defogs) I can see the revs going down instantly by ~100 rpms and then again up. The easiest way to demonstrate are the hazards which will keep the revs up and down all the time to a certain tempo. I may post a video on this...
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2022, 06:04:50 PM »

Today i had a new issue with my F4. While i was driving, when i tried to start from a junction, while pressing the accelerator, the engine hesitated for a while...then accelerated and then hesitated again, while meanwhile the red temperature light turned on. After a second the car went back to normal and i checked the engine temp (i have the pods) being at 70 C. I connected ELM327 and found code P0606 waiting there for me...After that the whole day never encountered the issue again...Any clues guys?
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2022, 01:08:58 PM »

P0606   Control Module Processor

I would advise you to get the car connected to a Star machine to give you the EXACT
reason for the fault code..AND...it will also say what specifically has caused the fault code
as well as how to check/fix/rectify it.
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2023, 06:12:22 PM »

I am getting back to this because i have precious information around my forfour. As i have already shared, i have an issue with my forfour being unable to properly maintain stable idle when using electrics, like the hazards. Moreover, lately i have an issue where the car jerks for 1-2 seconds and the rpm drop when accelerating. Well i found this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNEaxxyJ1w

Check at minute 3.20...you will need to introduce google translation subtitles of course, since it is in russian, but very good engine review. So, this is an ecu issue...Have anybody changed the ecu?
Moreover, i have changed the clutch kit, since it was very heavy and squeaky...this was a very good fix, since my clutch pedal now is veeeery light!!
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2023, 12:17:30 PM »

Locating a ecu and plugging it in may well need a MB StarDiagnosis in order for it to work. This machine can also do keys for it. It may be useful to find someone with one of these machines before you start the other searches. Others who have carried this out will be able to guide more accurately.
 A very ineresting video link. Thanks for posting it
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2023, 03:58:32 PM »

Changes such as ECU and/or dashboard 'speedo/rev counter are not to be
tackled without a Star diagnostics !
Why ?  Well each of those componenets stores the kms/mileage and cross
refers/checks and matches that data... SO...if you change either of them
and the replacement component has a higher km/mileage than the unchanged
component then it will overwrite the lower data reading held on the other
component with the higher data reading...UNLESS you have a Star diagnostics
and know exactly what you are doing with it to stop the enforced change.

And...as cecil points out..you may also need the matching keys as you
might not be able to lock/unlock/start the car if the coding of it does not match
the replacement ECU.  Do not quote me 100% on that..but it is worth bearing
in mind IF you do get any problems like that.
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Re: My new forfour
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2023, 05:45:04 PM »

I am planning to try a second hand ECU which can find for about 50€ on ebay. I will contact my local smart garage if he can swap and clone keys and old ecu data to the new one...
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