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Forum => General Smart Chat => Topic started by: Ukkram on December 29, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
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I am busy with car insurance and need to get the model year correct. I know that the 10'th digit is the year of manufacture on all VIN's world wide.
My 10'th digit is "2". How can this be correct as Smart 44's were perhaps only a thought in 2002.
I did get a "Title Holder History" from the traffic dept and it shows Benz Fin Ser PTY Ltd as the 1'st owner and registered on 2005-11-17. They held it as a company car until I bought it from them.
What are your thoughts on this as one website states that the car model is the year of Manufacture and NOT when 1'st registered.
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Where are you looking for the VIN? The plate should be in the drivers door jam. On my Forfour the number in the windscreen bore no relation to the VIN.
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The VIN is the same on the license papers and below the passenger side windscreen wiper blade.
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Try looking at the plate in the drivers door opening.
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We have lots of sites that when you put the reg number into it you get the make/model/spec/engine details out.
Car insurance sites also do this
JJ
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Witch kind of specs give the insurance sites ?
Put here VIN number and i can give to all the paper from MB program to see how the car get out from the fabric .
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you can tell what number car it was off the production line by looking at the last 6/7 digits on the chassis number (well you can on jags)
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Only 1 example , because i can not attach :
Datacard for vehicle identification number: WME4540341B108389
Engine number ... 122950 20 814885 Front axle 1 .... Sales des. ...... FORFOUR BRABUS 130 KW Radio unit no. .. Order number .... 0 5 387 01030 Rear axle 1 ..... Production order Rear axle 2 ..... Transmission .... 717478 00 003650
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To get back on the topic. I need to get the year model and the VIN states it is a 2002. The previous post VIN shows a 2001 model. How can this be?
Getting the year model from the licence plate only shows the year of first registration. Not the model. In South Africa anyway.
Many people will put off buying a new 2012 car today and will rather wait until next week thinking it will then be a 2013 model. Not so. It will be a year old model with no mileage on the clock. The age of the car will start from 2013 not the model.
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The smart Forfour was only produced from 2004 until 2006. The 2007 registered cars weren't sold in time to be counted as a 2006 model. So I can't understand why you talk about 2002. It only is possible if you would have a prototype car.
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On my Forfour the number in the windscreen was not my VIN. This was discovered when it went for first MOT and confused the testers as they could not access details on DVLA screen. The correct number was on the silver plate in the drivers door opening. Why this was I have no idea, but it caused no problems.
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The plate with the VIN is located at the bottom of the 'B' pillar...
the centre door pillar for those not familiar with the term.
So, when you open the drivers door it is down on the bottom left
on RHD cars, on the bottom right on LHD cars.
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The 10th digit is the year of manufacture and mine is a "2". That means 2002??
The VIN on my registration certificate and on the license form is the same as that which is on the windscreen.
No plate with a VIN inside the door frame. Why would they have 2 VIN's ?
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The 10th digit is the year of manufacture and mine is a "2". That means 2002??
The VIN on my registration certificate and on the license form is the same as that which is on the windscreen.
No plate with a VIN inside the door frame. Why would they have 2 VIN's ?
VIN we have on steel floor under front passanger feet carpet. ;D
Offcourse in LHD.
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Ukkram, the serial number that is written on the logbook or in the places where the guys told to you....the serial number starts with WME45400
now...write the full number here in a post, or send me a PM and I will give you the paper from the system giving you the year your car was
actually made. Is free.
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try this site http://www.vindecoder.net/
tried my mums focus as iv got the chassis number on my phone and its correct... it says its an 04MY (its 01/06 registered)
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That site shows that the manufacturer is MB and the model number is 2002.
My VIN: WME4540312B108485
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That site shows that the manufacturer is MB and the model number is 2002.
My VIN: WME4540312B108485
problem solved?!
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So your car was the 2002nd model off the production line....which started in 2004.
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So your car was the 2002nd model off the production line....which started in 2004.
Umm. No G. I spent an hour today searching for that elusive VIN in the drivers door and under the mat to no avail. Only under the passenger windscreen wiper.
Google "VIN deciphered". The 10'th digit is the year model. Mine is 2. The website above confirms this as a 2002 model. Confused.
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Google "VIN deciphered". The 10'th digit is the year model. Mine is 2. The website above confirms this as a 2002 model. Confused.
does it really matter when your car was made? i mean really who ACTUALLY checks?
i know of an XJ that was the last of the 'old' model before it went bigger and all aluminium which was never registered. also another Jaguar, this time a 2001 MY S-Type that was delivered to a dealer in shrewsbury which no one ordered and no one knew anything about it... they ended up registering it and selling it several years later.
the ONLY proper way to find out when it was built is to contact you dealer and ask them as they will be able to log on to mercedes/smarts data base and find out.
my 2 pence worth now... you have a car and just enjoy it instead of worrying about when it was made!
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my 2 pence worth now... you have a car and just enjoy it instead of worrying about when it was made!
Ditto.
But taking that back to your original enquiry - there should be no need to know the model year for insurance purposes. The forfour was made for only 2 years, and comes in very few varieties - 1.1, 1.3, 1.5 petrols, 1.5 cdi (68 and 95bhp versions), and then a couple of trim levels (pulse, pure, coolstyle, black)..... and of course, the Brabus ;)
You know you have a 1.3 Pulse, that should be enough.
When I'm asked for a year for my insurance, I give the registration year of 2005.
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That site shows that the manufacturer is MB and the model number is 2002.
Apologies for my 'error' I just took your words at face value..
"model number is 2002" vice "model year of production is 2002".
But that aside, as funky says....what matters is the year of
registration. That is what is on the log book/paperwork, and
what should be given for insurance and also if selling/buying.
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Ukram, your car can't be a 2002, they started making them in 2003 and selling them in 2004. My car is a 2004 registered one, and most of it's parts are made in summer-fall of 2003, and a few of them are labeled as prototype, or for engineering purposes.
No forfour was made in 2002.
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the websyte is not good and your VIN seems to be not good, or is broke or something.
the VIN number for some cars was not subscribed in EPC-ASRA the MB program and your VIN give the error " data card cannot be read" .
Some cars was so personalized that was not registred in the MB program.
I will give the VIN to a friend that works in domain to see if they can take out the paper with your car.
The webyte from top is not good for european cars or japanees ones.
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I agree. My VIN must be incorrect. I live in Africa and most cars here are stolen. :)
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The VIN is stamped into the footwell of the front passenger seat, pull the seat back and you will see a small cutout in the carpet, pull it back and see the vin there. It's stamped into the metalwork of the car, so if it's tampered with you will surely notice. The one on the pillar is just FYI, insurance, MOT, police etc go by the one on the footwell.
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I agree. My VIN must be incorrect. I live in Africa and most cars here are stolen. :)
so you have to be carrefoul with the authorised dealers from Mercedes because they register the car in the sistem and police can find it .
so be very cautious.
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I agree. My VIN must be incorrect. I live in Africa and most cars here are stolen. :)
so you have to be carrefoul with the authorised dealers from Mercedes because they register the car in the sistem and police can find it .
so be very cautious.
Jaguar Land Rover Cars LTD could 'kill' a car if its found to be stolen if plugged in to there diagnostic equipment
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http://mb.ilcats.ru/F/ccode/M/ (http://mb.ilcats.ru/F/ccode/M/)
My car was made on the 10th of February, 2004, model number 0000430. Who's got an older forfour than mine?
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G'day
My ff also has a vin that states that its made in 2002, I find that also strange as they were only made from 2004 till 2006.
The ff is a second-hand import from Japan to here [New Zealand]
My vin is WME4540322B053803 so Ukkram, you are not the only one who is confused about when the ff was made.
Greetings
eddie.
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Cannot possibly be 2002. forfours were indeed made from 2004-2006 although some were registered after that.
:)
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and there was four made in 2009
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and there was four made in 2009
err no!
registered in 2009, yes. made in 2009, no!
and how did you check when your car was made eddie?
best go to mercedes and find out from them when it was made... but as iv said before in this thread, why are you worried about how old your car is?
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Main data
Parameter Value
Ident. number (FIN) WME4540322B053803
VIN WME4540322B053803
Baumuster 454032
Sales name FORFOUR (E 15) 80 KW
Permanent link http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercedes/vin_check?su=fvl4gl7
Order number 0 4839 72184
Delivery date September 24, 2004
PAINT1 EB4 TRIDION SAFETY CELL IN PURE SILVER
PAINT2 EAR CBS COLOUR, MELON (FFO)
Interior color IAT No code designation available
Engine 135950 80 013030
Gearbox 717 474 00 017 576
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Option codes
Code Value
01Y WIRING HARNESS 1
03Y WIRING HARNESS 3 STOP LAM
05Y WIRING HARNESS 5
07Y WIRING HARNESS 7
09Y RUBBER MATS COCKPIT
10Y TWINFACE ARMREST
11Y LUMBAR VERTEBRA SUPPORT
12Y ELECTR. WINDOW WINDER (REAR)
13Y EXTERIOR REARVIEW MIRROR, ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE
29Y EPS POWER STEERING (FFO)
30Y REAR AXLE DISC BRAKE
31Y LINE-SPECIFIC REAR COMBINATION LAMP ASSY
33Y WIRING HARNESS 8
34Y WIRING HARNESS 9
36Y LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
39Y PASSION
40Y REAR SEAT FOLDING FUNCTION
48Y FRONT SEAT BACKREST COVER
498 JAPAN VERSION
50Y COLOURED PART GRILL
51Y COLOURED PART DOOR MIRROR
57Y SECOND RADIO FREQUENCY
61Y AMT AT VEHICLE START
804 YOM 13/1 (MY14)
839L JAPAN
A03 SMART PASSION
C22 SOUND PACKAGE (FFO)
C31 (LOUDSPEAKER)
E55 FOLDING ROOF IN FABRIC, ELECTRICAL
EAR CBS COLOUR, MELON (FFO)
EARO No code designation available
EB4 TRIDION SAFETY CELL IN PURE SILVER
EB4U No code designation available
H11 HAZARD WARNING TRIANGLE WITH ATTACHMENT MATERIALS
I01 A / C PLUS (FFO)
I32 SMOKER'S SET
IATA No code designation available
K01 ADDITIONAL 5 LITRE FUEL FILL (FFO)
K03 BATTERY DISCONNECTING SWITCH FOR SHIPMENT VEHICLE
K04 HEADLAMPS AND REAR COMBINATION LAMPS, LEFT-HAND TR
LBB AIRBAG SIGN - JAPANESE / ENGLISH
M135 R4 GASOLINE ENGINE M135
M15 CAPACITY 1,5 LITER
P12 COMFORT PACKAGE (FFO)
R02 ALL-WEATHER TIRES
R40 ALUMINUM WHEELS "STROKE LINE" (15 "195 / 50R15)
S20 DRIVER'S SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTER (FFO)
S22 ISO-FIX (CHILD SEAT ATTACHMENT SYSTEM)
S33 READYSPACE REAR SEATS WITH REMOVABLE CARGO BOX
T22 PASSION
T33 PASSION (PRICE MODULE)
V07 FOGLAMP
V11 SOFTOUCH - AUTOMATIC SHIFTING PROGRAM (FFO)
V33 ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP)
V51 ILLUMINATED GLOVE COMPARTMENT
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all taken from here....
http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercedes/vin_check
JJ
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http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercedes/vin_check?su=hymr_6vg
this is mine, just thankful its not a friday car!
it turns out it was stood for over a year before being registered in december 2005
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G'day again
Mr Singh, thank you for your answer on the age of my ff
I went by the vin nr, and the 9th digit is a 2 and according to one of the most popular vin checker, its made in 2002, but that is obviously wrong.
Not worried about when my ff was made but nice to know when it was delivered and ready for the road,
Greetings,
eddie.
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G'day again,
Problemchild, thank you so much for the very detailed stat's for my ff, I went to a popular vin checker but got the wrong info that my car was made in 2002 but obviously very wrong.
Thanx again for finding the right info for me.
Greetings,
eddie.
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G'day again,
I was looking through the optional codes for my ff and on ''K01'' it says it has ''ADDITIONAL 5 LITRE FUEL FILL''(FFO) would that mean that I can get 47+5 liter in the tank?
Can anybody help me out please.
Greetings,
eddie.