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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2011, 04:45:55 PM »

.....the new A class Merc which will share underpinnings with the new Smart ForFour..........
 

And we all know what happened last time....the ForFour was thought to be too much of a competitior to the A Class...
Similarly the ForMore....which used the chassis and running gear of it's 'competitor' the E Class.
Though the ForMore had better styling and interior...something Merc weren't happy with and which added another nail to it's coffin.

Merc don't view it the same way as VW.....who sell 'badge engineered' Audi's, VW's, SEAT's, and Skoda's that share the same parts
and compete with each other.  If you buy a Skoda and not an Audi/VW/SEAT you have still bought a car from the same group/company.
Merc should learn a lesson from that.
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2011, 07:27:05 PM »

.....the new A class Merc which will share underpinnings with the new Smart ForFour..........
 

And we all know what happened last time....the ForFour was thought to be too much of a competitior to the A Class...
Similarly the ForMore....which used the chassis and running gear of it's 'competitor' the E Class.
Though the ForMore had better styling and interior...something Merc weren't happy with and which added another nail to it's coffin.

Merc don't view it the same way as VW.....who sell 'badge engineered' Audi's, VW's, SEAT's, and Skoda's that share the same parts
and compete with each other.  If you buy a Skoda and not an Audi/VW/SEAT you have still bought a car from the same group/company.
Merc should learn a lesson from that.

I'd never heard of the Formore but just googled it and if the images are accurate I think that was a huge miss by Merc.
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2011, 08:42:40 PM »

.....the new A class Merc which will share underpinnings with the new Smart ForFour..........

And we all know what happened last time....the ForFour was thought to be too much of a competitior to the A Class...
Similarly the ForMore....which used the chassis and running gear of it's 'competitor' the E Class.
Though the ForMore had better styling and interior...something Merc weren't happy with,
and which added another nail to it's coffin.

Merc don't view it the same way as VW.....who sell 'badge engineered' Audi's, VW's,
SEAT's, and Skoda's that share the same parts<br />and compete with each other.
If you buy a Skoda and not an Audi/VW/SEAT you have still bought a car from the
same group/company.
Merc should learn a lesson from that.

I'd never heard of the Formore but just googled it and if the images are accurate I think that was a huge miss by Merc.

The ForMore was production ready when it was axed, there are pictures of a pancake of 5 or 6 ForMores !

I think the rumours of the next gen A-Klasse and ForFour might be true this time the
economic climate is so rough that any cost saving measures need to be taken. The
A-Klasse is a baby Merc and a cheap one at that, so would make sense for the Clio,
ForFour, A-Klasse and Micra to share the same tech.

From the articles that have circulated recently it looks like it will be the Twingo, Pixo,
and ForTwo will all be the same, save for the badge and very modest styling tweaks.
The Micra, Clio and ForFour (possibly the A-Klasse) will all be the same. This will kill
the Smart brand for good, they shot themselves in the foot with the ForFour and Colt.
You could either have a high spec Colt for £8k or a similarly spec ForFour for over
£10k.. hmm... so if you have a Twingo at £5k, a Pixo at £5k and a ForTwo at £7k,
which one would you choose ?

And if you think VAG is bad at sharing platforms and cars, I have been looking at
replacing my ForFour with a Japanese oddity - this is what my delving found...
the humble Yaris can be found as a Toyota Will, Daihatsu Materia, Daihatsu Siron,
Toyota Vitz, Scion xB, Toyota bB... the list goes on including various drivetrains and
n/a and turbo'd units of the same engines found in a big standard Yaris.
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2011, 08:44:42 PM »

there will be outcry and toys being thrown...... can't wait ;)

but it will be a shame to lose identity... there are very few cars around that look as unique as the smarts

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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 10:01:55 PM »

http://destinationsmart.co.uk/users/Baggy/groups/view-group.cfm?grpid=69&type=1


I have a group on destination smart for the Formore ..

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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2011, 09:49:53 PM »

http://destinationsmart.co.uk/users/Baggy/groups/view-group.cfm?grpid=69&type=1

I have a group on destination smart for the Formore ..


Just having a nosey thanks for that :-) are  there any more pictures other than the one or am I being thick.
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2011, 10:42:26 PM »

thereare more pics on the group page if you join
gimme a shout if you struggle and i'll post them in here
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2011, 10:56:02 PM »

Way back when we started this site I posted something up on the ForMore....
It includes a link to an interesting Australian article....and it also has pictures
(possibly the same as those on the www.destinationsmart group that baggy has got going)

I didn't include the heartbreaking pictures of the leftover results after Merc trashed the re-production models they made.
(with the exception of 1 hidden away in a private collection somewhere)

Anyway....here's the link to my original post....(I've just made it 'sticky' and 'locked' it)
http://forfour.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=135.0
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2011, 11:07:35 AM »

Found this today.......Yuk  :-\
Too much like a Nissan Almera


http://www.auto-power-girl.com/cars-2011/smart-specifications/smart_five_door-4415
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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2011, 11:45:30 AM »

Yeah - we all think that is nasty!

Luckily I think it's staying in the US if it gets made at all ;)

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Re: New Forfour
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2011, 03:37:16 PM »

Not so much Nissan Almera as looking more like a Meglio, or a Cliané (a mishmash of Megané and Clio)
with a sort of squashed ForFour front end....'sort of' being about right.

Why bother bringing this thing out for 2 years (weird that it'll have the same life span as our ones did, eh ?)
when the 'real' genuine ForFour (MkII) will be launched in 2014 (I'll believe that when I see it !)
but hey...you can just hear the 'schpeel' that will be pushed out when and if it is launched.....
about how it has tones or carry overs or hints etc etc from our one...whilst not looking
in the least bit like ours in any way shape or form.
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451 - Pulse Turbo [my daily drive] (mapped, coilovers etc)
450 - 'Widestar' Passion 700cc [SORN'd]
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