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Was cruise control a factory option?
« on: July 07, 2010, 03:20:08 PM »
Whilst doing my research to purchase a forfour, I came across a couple of cars in Germany that have cruise control. Was CC a factory option or are these likely to be 3rd party CCs? I'm surpised that it isn't more common TBH.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 04:24:00 PM »
A good question there, and one that was on my mind after I got my ForFour.

Much questioning and investigation revealed that it cannot be retrofitted, so the answer is, is that
it was a factory fit option only. Shame cos I would have had it if it had been possible to retrofit.

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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 10:19:44 PM »
You can get kits to retrofit cruise control. The only trouble comes is talking to the CANbus electrics.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 02:09:09 PM »
Quote from: CrazyG on July 07, 2010, 04:24:00 PM
A good question there, and one that was on my mind after I got my ForFour.

Much questioning and investigation revealed that it cannot be retrofitted, so the answer is, is that
it was a factory fit option only. Shame cos I would have had it if it had been possible to retrofit.

CrazyG
Interesting that it can't be retro fitted if it was a factory option. Can't it be done because (1) the wiring is not available, (2) the cruise stalk is not available or is it a TAN coding thing? The first two could possibly be sourced from a crashed car although I assume it will be pretty hard to find one. The only two cars I've come across on the net with cruise on are petrol versions.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 05:31:28 PM »
I do see your point......
I would therefore recommend that you ask Kate at Wellsmart very nicely from her professional
knowledge of the Smarts and the ForFour if it is possible, as there's not a lot that she doesn't know
about ForFours and what can and can't be done in the way of adding factory option bits afterwards.
Let us know what you find out.....please.
 
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 06:59:29 PM »
http://www.conrad-anderson.co.uk/cruisecontrols/cruisecontrols-home.htm

Aftermarket kits, the forfour is "drive-by-wire" so should be relatively straight forward to tap into the relevent electrics.
Plenty of kits out there either DIY, or get it fitted.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 09:21:38 PM »
There's always http://www.misterdotcom.info/smart/for4/for4.html and I understand that has been fitted
by at least one forfour owner in the UK.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 10:35:31 AM »
Yes, I've seen the MisterDotCom cruise module. I'll investigate the possibility of retrofitting and speak to Kate as suggested.
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 12:15:11 AM »
Thanks for that info/update basilbrush....
I too have seen the Misterdotcom crusie control kit.....but they don't do instructions in English
(I know as I emailled and asked)...the page has 2 prices for it as well...the cheaper one is for
those with auto/semi-auto gearbox, and the higher price is for the manual gearbox version.

What I found confusing were the pictures of the wiring...looks like they go into the OBD2 port...
which would not work for me as I use that for the scanGaugeII I have/use...and I can't splice
that or the MDC cruise control in to the wiring AND have the ScanGauge at the same time.
It can't be used for more than one thing at a time. (I have been reliably informed by Evil)

So..if there is anyone 'out there' who has fitted this piece of kit....can they give us a 'heads up'
on how easy it was to install...where the wiring does go...and or course, how well does it work ?
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 07:13:50 PM »
Just got fun today with my new smart doing nearly 450miles... :-X  Using shift paddles.... ;D
Play with everything but still can't resolve how to turn on cruise control...my display shows this on screen:.

these "---" means to setup mileage but how???

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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 09:09:07 PM »
cruise control??

hmmmm........i don't think i have ever seen a forfour with cruise.....yet !

JJ
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 10:03:46 PM »
Quote from: joker2102 on December 17, 2010, 07:13:50 PM
Just got fun today with my new smart doing nearly 450miles... :-X  Using shift paddles.... ;D
Play with everything but still can't resolve how to turn on cruise control...

I'm going to be straight and to the point. RTFM !!
Read the Flamin Manual !

[PS:- It's in the compartment down by your feet in the panel just in front of the door
       if your car is RHD, or on the passenger side if your car is LHD.]
 
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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 11:07:19 PM »
or just look here

www.forfour.co.uk/manuals.html

but there isn't anything in there as i don't recall the forfour ever coming with cruise in the UK

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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 11:22:25 PM »
That is funny - never seen that! Is it a uk car??

I had a look in the german manual and no reference to cruise either ;)

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Re: Was cruise control a factory option?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 11:27:07 PM »
Looking at it (and I know it says cruise) but I wonder if it's a speed limiter type function - beeps etc at 70mph

Does the mph figure change as you drive??

Some functions of the computer are only available while stationary ;)

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